Talk:Egg allergy
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I believe the article should be more specific regarding the Epinephrine autoinjector used to treat severe allergies. For example, it should say that when administered to an infant, the Epinephrine pen should be injected into the infant’s thigh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baires78 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Some artificial flavors contain eggs, but I'm uncertain as to which ones. A list of additives that contain egg proteins would be a life-saver!
- If that's the case, then you'll probably find the information at the Food Allergy and Anaphylaxis Network's website[1] or at your doctor's office. Wikipedia is not an appropriate source for lifesaving medical information. You should not trust the information here with your life, because a typo (or someone's sick idea of a joke) could kill you. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- In the United States, the official definition of "artificial flavors" and "natural flavors" is here:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=ac3815539ab52cd7c49d738eb6c6e7c8&rgn=div8&view=text&node=21:2.0.1.1.2.2.1.1&idno=21 That might be a good ref to add to the article and mention that anything that uses those "catch all" terms may not be safe. But maybe this should go in the main food allergy article, not under egg.
- To further complicate the picture, companies don't always comply correctly with labeling law and there isn't always much oversight. Anyway, I think a list of words that you might not know mean egg would be a good addition to the article. Asbruckman (talk) 03:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Egg allergy does affect adults - I am a case in point, I am a 40 year old women who has been diagnosed as having a moderate allergy to eggs namely the protein in the egg white called Lysozyme. At best my face goes bright red at worst my throat swells and I can go into Anaphalactic shock. I have an EPI pen on standby. Please can you mention this in your article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.122.120 (talk) 23:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Article now clear that egg allergy can persist into adult years. David notMD (talk) 10:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- Egg allergy does affect adults - I am a case in point, I am a 40 year old women who has been diagnosed as having a moderate allergy to eggs namely the protein in the egg white called Lysozyme. At best my face goes bright red at worst my throat swells and I can go into Anaphalactic shock. I have an EPI pen on standby. Please can you mention this in your article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.122.120 (talk) 23:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- To further complicate the picture, companies don't always comply correctly with labeling law and there isn't always much oversight. Anyway, I think a list of words that you might not know mean egg would be a good addition to the article. Asbruckman (talk) 03:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Factual error in Vaccine hazard
[edit]The quantity of egg protein in a dose of MMR vaccine is approximately 40 picograms (much lower than in influenza vaccine, which contains approximately 0.02-1.0 micrograms).
40 picogram = 4.0*10^-5 microgram or 0.00004 microgram. This implies MMR has lower egg protein and does not match with the comparison above. One of the units could be wrong but I don't have the expertise to pinpoint which. ImpossibleBalloon (talk) 14:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- MMR portion of vaccine hazard revised. The Piquer-Gibert reference states that the amount of egg protein in the MMR vaccine ranges from non-detectable to 0.5 to 1.0 nanograms of ovoalbumin (per 0.5 mg dose of vaccine). It cites three refs to support this information. David notMD (talk) 22:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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Starting major rewrite
[edit]Starting major rewrite and re-referencing of the entire article. David notMD (talk) 12:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nominating for Good Article David notMD (talk) 00:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Completed all the major changes I intended. David notMD (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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Reviewer: AmericanAir88 (talk · contribs) 20:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Good Day, I will take up this review. I hope we can through the process easy and stress free. AmericanAir88 (talk) 20:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Opening Comments
[edit]Welcome to your first good article nomination. My reviews are all about hearing what you have the say. I am not here to just be a judge. I am here to help you get the title. I format them like a trial where I present my comments and issues and you fix them; Then I do the final verdicts. I look forward to working with you and I wish you the best of luck.
This article starts out very strong and ends very strong. It is very well done with only minor issues. I can see the MIT work you put into this. The middle of the article however could use some work,(mostly making it not plagiarized) but that is what I am here for. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:21, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Issues
[edit]@David notMD: Major Almost all of the "Mechanisms" section is copied from https://www.cpet.ufl.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ELISA-Handout-2011.pdf and https://worldasthmafoundation.org/asthma-and-allergies. Copy right violations are instant failures and must be resolved immediately.
- Oy! I did not create that content. What I did do was copy it almost verbatim from Food allergy (and attributed it, and also copied it into Milk allergy). I will look at the two sources you provided and rewrite/paraphrase the content so that it is no longer a copy/near copy. Once we are in agreement on revision I will also fix the other two articles. David notMD (talk) 21:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Thank you, Copying from other articles is fine but it cannot be from an outside source. Thank you for addressing the issue. I will keep you updated. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- @AmericanAir88: I believe the plagiarism is actually the other way around. In Wikipedia, the articles Allergy and Food allergy share the text that I copied into Egg allergy. The references are Janeway, Grimbaldeston and Holt. The World Asthma Foundation website you provided actually starts with the words "According to Wikipedia." Other sections, for example "Hygiene hypothesis" are directly taken from the Wikipedia article Allergy. The ELISA-Handout link you provided also has content that word-for-word matches Wikipedia's Allergy. It has no references. I do not believe the authors of ELISA wrote this on their own and managed to word-for-word match Wikipedia and the World Asthma Foundation. The more logical explanation is that ELISA plagiarized Wikipedia without attribution. David notMD (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: You are absolutely correct. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2017 (UTC). Done
- @AmericanAir88: I believe the plagiarism is actually the other way around. In Wikipedia, the articles Allergy and Food allergy share the text that I copied into Egg allergy. The references are Janeway, Grimbaldeston and Holt. The World Asthma Foundation website you provided actually starts with the words "According to Wikipedia." Other sections, for example "Hygiene hypothesis" are directly taken from the Wikipedia article Allergy. The ELISA-Handout link you provided also has content that word-for-word matches Wikipedia's Allergy. It has no references. I do not believe the authors of ELISA wrote this on their own and managed to word-for-word match Wikipedia and the World Asthma Foundation. The more logical explanation is that ELISA plagiarized Wikipedia without attribution. David notMD (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Thank you, Copying from other articles is fine but it cannot be from an outside source. Thank you for addressing the issue. I will keep you updated. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- I got confused with this part under Causes "The cause is typically the eating of eggs or foods that contain eggs." Can you expand this. It needs to more than one sentence when compared to the next couple of sections. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:37, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- Two sentences and a citation added. Done David notMD (talk) 23:56, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Excellent Work AmericanAir88 (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- This article could use more wikilinks as there are some sections without any. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:39, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- Fourteen Wililinks added. Done David notMD (talk) 23:56, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Excellent Work AmericanAir88 (talk) 03:13, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: The "Society" section is awkward. It could use some expansion and reworking. AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:17, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- Will be adding content about how an allergy affects quality of life for both the child and the parents/caregivers. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
- Added text and six citations. Done David notMD (talk) 12:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David notMD: The "Exercise" section is awkward as well. It could use expansion and reworking also. AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:24, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- More text and two more citations added. Done David notMD (talk) 12:22, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
- The Review Table will now begin. All issues have been solved. AmericanAir88 (talk) 15:41, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Review Table
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Very clear and concise | |
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | All complies | |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | All references are useful | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | All are reliable | |
2c. it contains no original research. | No original research | |
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | The copyright violation is on the websites end | |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Addresses all the main topics. | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Keeps Focus on Egg Allergy while providing useful details. | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Very Neutral Article | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | No edit wars | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | All valid | |
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | All are relevant and have suitable captions | |
7. Overall assessment. | Congratulations you Passed |
Closing Comments
[edit]Congratulations on passing. You have been one of my favorite users I have encountered on wikipedia. You are so dedicated to making the encyclopedia and your knowledges very impressive. Your knowledge amazes me. I hope we can work together in the future. Please keep in contact. If you need any help just ask. AmericanAir88 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Refs need to be consistently formatted
- Is this just for chicken eggs or other eggs aswell? This ref mentions some other ones[2]
- The second paragraph is about food allergies generally rather than about egg allergies. IMO should be moved to that article and rewritten about egg allergies.
- How commonly they occur should be in the lead. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:28, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- 1) All links work. I changed format on a few that were different. Not sure what else wanted here.
- 2) Other types of eggs were mentioned in Treatment with a citation (Langeland 1983). I replaced that with your suggested ref (Caubet) which cites Langeland and was already ref #1. Done
- 3) Revised second paragraph (and did same in Milk allergy, where I had also added it) Done
- 4) Added prevalence to lead Done
- 5) I just added a big chunk of text and citations to Society and culture. Not sure if I am entirely comfortable with text, especially as about food allergy in general rather than specific to egg allergy. Compared to peanut and tree nut, egg allergy often resolves as children age, and is also less likely to trigger severe anaphylactic episodes. However, for a subset of people it persists and remains a danger. Eggs, like nuts wheat and soy, often end up as ingredients in packaged foods and restaurant foods, so the quality of life issues apply.
- Thanks for looking in. David notMD (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- The Review Table will now begin. All issues have been solved. AmericanAir88 (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Article as model for other food allergy articles
[edit]This article being used as model for improving food allergy articles to other common allergens (milk, peanut, tree nut, wheat, soy fish, shellfish). As of November 2017 the last two articles do not exist, so instead a search on either of those redirects to the Food allergy article. David notMD (talk) 08:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
- July 2020: I have created Draft:Fish allergy by copying all of Egg allergy into that draft. Content and refs specific to eggs is in process of being removed, and content and refs specific to fish added. David notMD (talk) 12:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Infobox not there yet.
[edit]I copied the Infobox from Milk allergy with intention to soon (!) replace the missing milk refs with egg refs, but instead a BOT brought the milf refs into this article. Will fix. David notMD (talk) 02:23, 10 September 2022 (UTC)